I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. One of the finest pocket guns out there. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. Stainless steel throughout the gun. Accurate for cheap junk. 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. Its pretty clear why. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. And I especially enjoy its clever name. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. No thanks. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! These are not military combat weapons. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? .40 maybe too big for a leetle sub-compact pistol. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. lol Damon really? And just recently bought my Third Pico. Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. Thats a lot! It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. Uh no. I have been shooting pocket guns for years. The .380 pistol which has the least recoil? Above, a Ruger, below a Browning 1911380 Without even looking at their spec sheets, we can guess that Shoot to make the thug dead. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. yes the Masss might love them, but who the hell are the masses? By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. Oh shit! I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. Its a joy to shoot. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. They never protected their early designs/. around $219 plus S&H and ffl fees. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check All run like sewing machines. They sent me a replacement gun that wouldnt chamber the 1st round. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. I like mine. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. LMFAO!!!! Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. Bought it brand new. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg 400 hundred rounds of various FMJ and hollow points without a single failure. Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. Also people need to fire them at the range. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Nicer than the price would indicate. I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. Wrong about sccy. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. Its tight, even well after break-in. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) Just like Fords. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. I had issues with mine to start. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. Note to self, Get to the range! The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. He does not know how to use it. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. I. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. You can get these on line at times for I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. The Pico is a great gun. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. I dont see it. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. I actually have the cm9 and cw380 both and never an issue with either one. Must be the best gun ever. Happy ending. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. Quick Summary: Our Top Picks For 5 Best .380 Pistols in 2022 1. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? Have you put more than a box through it? Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. And we have to like it enough to carry it. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. The warranty cant be beat. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. We saw your review and write up. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. George have you tried a different ammo brand? You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Mild. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. Totally agree. Sleek design, totally snag proof. And probably never fired one. They claimed to have test fired it after repair. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. It came back still not fixed. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. Ill definitely be checking it out. The CW380 sucks. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. Plus, the Picos 9mm cousin, the Nano, rates well above average. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. Are you kidding me? they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. Ruger LCP Max 2. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. So there. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. You sound smart. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. The gun design has never worked well . I broke the firing pin on the first day. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. Ive no complaints. I have two of the Picos. Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. Its been reliable since then for me. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. Anyone have the Bersa .380. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. I love the Pico. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. Yep and they give AKs a bad name with how terrible theirs are. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. So, I would never consider one. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Tiny little semi-automatics sure, there are many good ones and many bad ones. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. I went through 4 LCP. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. What a joke. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. Sure just The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. OMG! Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. Id never heard of the site; wanted to check it out to see how much I want to buy the article at face value. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. No issues to complain about. based on what your stupid opinion? So Ill pass on the herd mentality when buying guns thanks.. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. They are well known for their % of guns that have failure rates compared to the ones that dont. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. To quote his expertise is laughable. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg I wouldnt bother to get that info from this site. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. You must not even be able to read. Best 380 Ive ever had. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. 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